'Transparent' translation quietly gaining ground

'Transparent' translation quietly gaining ground

By Jim Coggins

Author and scholar James I. Packer
A BIBLE translation overseen by a widely respected Canadian author and scholar is making serious inroads in the international Christian marketplace.

The English Standard Version (ESV), released in 2001 with very little fanfare, has quietly been gaining readers. Sales quadrupled in 2003 - 2005 over sales the first two years, and quadrupled again in 2005 - 2007. In June 2007 the ESV was in third place in sales in the US, behind only the New International Version (NIV) and the King James Version (KJV).

More than four million copies have now been distributed. Ninety percent of sales have been in North America, but overseas distribution is growing rapidly through partnerships with more than 130 Bible societies around the world.

James I. Packer of Regent College in Vancouver served as general editor and chair of the 12-member Translation Oversight Committee. He recently told CC.com the translation grew out of discontent with other modern translations -- which, he asserted, tend to "deviate from what was said in several thousand places," in the interests of lucidity or easy readability.

In particular, he said, there was discontent with translations such as the New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) and Today's New International Version (TNIV) which make such deviations to achieve gender-neutral renderings.

Packer said these translations may have presented "what was meant but not what was said. The reader should know what Paul or Isaiah said."

Packer said some other translations are particularly frustrating for expositors who, in explaining what the text means, have to pause and first explain that what was translated is not actually what the text originally said.

In contrast, said Packer, the ESV tries to be a "transparent" translation -- in that the reader can see through it to what was originally written. Another word Packer used repeatedly was "precision." He said: "We think we have produced a version more precise than any of the alternatives."

The ESV is a word-for-word rather than a 'thought-for-thought' translation. The ESV website states that the latter translations are "of necessity more inclined to reflect the interpretive opinions of the translator and the influences of contemporary culture."

Packer said the ESV is also in a 500-year tradition of Bible translation -- from William Tyndale's Bible through the KJV to the Revised Standard Version.

The translation was carried out by 60 scholars who were expert in individual books, often having written commentaries on them. They started with the Revised Standard Version and were told to make the revisions they thought necessary and give reasons for the changes. The changes then went through another editing process to standardize them -- and finally to the oversight committee for final decisions.

There was also a 60-member advisory committee made up of pastors and other ministry leaders. Packer said this collaborative approach, also used by many other translations, is "the only rational way to do it."

Packer said all of those involved were also "evangelicals, Bible believers. . . . A Bible translator needs to be a believing Christian and draw on the help of the Holy Spirit. There is a spiritual side to Bible translation." Most were from the U.S.; some were from Britain and elsewhere.

Packer said the leading of the Holy Spirit was evident in the way "the good Lord brought us to a real consensus" on almost every point.

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Packer said the intent was to produce a "general purpose" Bible, suitable for preaching and exposition, reading in churches, memorization, lay Bible study, and personal Bible reading by people of all ages. A deliberate attempt was made to use simple words when possible, and to make the text "dance along," or read easily.

Packer said the producers were very careful to not make extravagant claims or get into a competition with other translations. The ESV was not launched with the "trumpets and drums" of some other translations launched about the same time, he said.

Rather, the ESV was released quietly and soberly and allowed to "find its own level." ESV's natural audience is "serious evangelicals who want a translation they can trust to be transparent to the original."

Packer said this appears to be what is behind the growing sales. Pastors are examining the translation, finding they can trust it and then recommending it to their congregations -- and in some cases "retooling" their churches by using ESV as a pew Bible.

The ESV is published by Crossway Books of Wheaton, Illinois. ESV sales have now reached the point that Crossway has had to set up a separate Crossway Bibles division. An entity called the Standard Bible Society has also been established to promote use of the ESV and to use it in ministry.

Comparing translation samples

Genesis 5:2

  1. ESV: Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Man when they were created.
  2. KJV: Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
  3. NIV: He created them male and female and blessed them. And when they were created, he called them "man."
  4. NLT: He created them male and female, and he blessed them and called them "human."
  5. NASB: He created them male and female, and He blessed them and named them Man in the day when they were created.
  6. Message: He created both male and female and blessed them, the whole human race.
  7. TNIV: He created them male and female and blessed them. And when they were created, he called them "human beings."
2 Corinthians 5:7
  1. ESV: For we walk by faith, not by sight.
  2. KJV: For we walk by faith, not by sight.
  3. NIV: We live by faith, not by sight.
  4. NLT: That is why we live by believing and not by seeing.
  5. NASB: For we walk by faith, not by sight.
  6. Message: It's what we trust in but don't yet see that keeps us going.
  7. TNIV: We live by faith, not by sight.
Matthew 6:28
  1. ESV: And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin.
  2. KJV: And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin.
  3. NIV: And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin.
  4. NLT: And why worry about your clothes? Look at the lilies and how they grow. They don't work or make their clothing.
  5. NASB: And why are you worried about clothing? Observe how the lilies of the field grow; they do not toil nor do they spin.
  6. Message: All this time and money wasted on fashion-do you think it makes that much difference? Instead of looking at the fashions, walk out into the fields and look at the wildflowers. They never primp or shop.

July 19/2007

Comments

Looks excellent! Clear but keeping to the Word better than my NLT, which I still refer to when I cannot completely understand other versions. I would still continue to use more than one Bible to ensure I understand.
#1 Wendy Seberras - 07/27/2007 - 07:20

I like the idea of not having the translators slant on it. If I need an explaination,I can ask the Holy Spirit or use a paraphrase version.
#2 Howie Kilfoyle - 07/27/2007 - 18:34

I will certainly take a look at this translation. There is a problem when everyone in a Bible study uses a different translation. When studying any book, everyone should be on the same page. I have become increasingly reluctant to use paraphrases since they often translate verses with a meaning quite different to the NIV, for instance.
#3 - 07/29/2007 - 11:19

At my last count, there were well over a dozen 'evangelical' Bible translations on the market. How much money, how much time is the 'evangelical' community going to spend on itself while so many languages and dialects of the earth have no Bible at all?
I have no interest in an 'evangelical' translation whose general editor has compromised the Gospel by signing the nefarious ECT accords, declaring missions to Roman Catholic peoples in Latin America and elsewhere redundant. When I see children and young people managing to get along nicely with the KJV -- and I notice that the KJV, despite all the screaming against it, without any 'trumpets and drums' or marketing organizations pushing it, sits second in the 'ratings'after the much-flogged NIV -- I have to wonder why the bother.
#4 John Perter Bodner - 08/04/2007 - 04:26

I always thought Jim Packer was British, not Canadian. Otherwise good article
#5 David Dewey - 08/06/2007 - 06:27

I like the ESV but prefer the NASB in my sutdies. For general reading I use the ESV and other reliable translations, I am not sure that I would preach our of it as I am very fond of the NASB, which is the most literal English translation, I would probably count the ESV as a close second or third.
#6 - 08/13/2007 - 15:36

Dear Brothers and Sisters
Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ!
I have been going through the studies at your web site, and I am deeply inspired with all of the teachings and studies thereon. This is such a wonderful studies and sermons you have arranged for all the nations, in the long run of your service for the nations of the all the world.
I am from Islamic Republic of Pakistan where it is difficult to have Radio and TV channel for preaching purposes. They would not allow us to do that here; the Satan has real strong hold over everything. I often say that we are living in the land of the enemy.

Brother, we humbly request you to expand your outreach your program in Urdu and Punjabi language. Urdu is the language spoken and understood by more than one sixth of the total population of the world. Urdu is spoken in Pakistan, India, Nepal, Afghanistan and also in Indonesia, Malaysia, Iran and others.

I would ask you to pray and share it among the brethrens at your ministry. I am a professional translator. I would offer my services for being translator, recorder and distribution/sales. I pray that your consideration will have His mark over your decision.

May God bless you abundantly! May His perfect will be done!
Grace and Peace be with you, all brethrens.
Yours brother in Christ,
Nadeem Masih
Pakistan.
Cell No: +92-301-6514281
Email: nlrm84@yahoo.com
#7 Nadeem Masih - 11/10/2007 - 18:36

Dear Incharge,
Greetings in Jesus name,
Faith cometh by hearing and hearing from the Word of God”(Romans, 10:17)
"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away"

It is really privileged for me to write to your ministry and I pray may Lord bless you abundantly.I visit your website and its really wonderful and amaizing work which you are doing .I desire that I become the pat of your Ministry and your stuff is really very good and kindly start work with us we will translate this . I am Seraphine Shahbaz from Pakistan . Five years before I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior and I trust in Him as my rock and try to walk in Him, as the Word of God says don’t be lazy in struggle.
As I was visiting your site I found that you are doing the work of translation into native languages. I am able to translate the good stuff of you into my native language Punjabi and national language Urdu. There are two purposes to request you the first one are to know the Word of God more deeply and second one to be supportive my family and to run.our Ministry. We will also teach your stuff in our working areas with our people .
. I have studied your web site, and I found it the most wonderful site to get right to the True Word of God. I found that all your material is full of knowledge concerning development of religious faith. Living in Pakistan we Christians is to face many obstacles to get the access to the Word of God. Most of the people in Pakistan are not capable to understand the English language. It’s because our national language is Urdu. My suggestion for you is to create your material in my language of Urdu and Punjabi also. It will bring lots of blessings of the Word of God for the Pakistani and Indian Urdu and Punjabi speaking people. For that purpose I as a translator will bring your material into Urdu languages and into Punjabi language as well. Although it will take your low expenses as well, as fund for the Word of God to reach out to the deserving people. As a translator I will take the expenses that will be spending just for the Word. I will be looking for your kind words on this my humble request as soon as possible.
“There is nothing more precious than to read and listen the Word of God into your own language.”


Here is the Importance of Urdu Langauge :
Urdu is Languages which is :
Urdu is considered one of the sweetest language of the world. It is the National Language of Pakistan and one of the Official Language of India. According to conservative estimates Urdu has 104 million speakers all over the world.
Countries :
IN these countries people can understand , speak , Listen and write the " URDU "
Countries with large numbers of native Urdu speakers:
· India (48.1 million [1997])[8]
· Pakistan (10.7 million [1993])[9]
· Bangladesh (650,000)[10]
· United Arab Emirates (600,000)
· United Kingdom (400,000 [1990])
· Saudi Arabia (382,000)[11]
· Nepal (375,000)
· United States (350,000)
· South Africa (170,000 South Asian Muslims, some of which may speak Urdu)[12]
· Oman (90,000)
· Canada (80,895 [2001])[13]
· Bahrain (80,000)
· Mauritius (74,000)
· Qatar (70,000)
· Germany (40,000)
· Norway (26,950 [2005])[14]
· France (20,000)
· Spain (18,000 [2004])[15]
· Sweden (10,000 [2001])[16]
· World Total: 60,503,578[17]

ntries with large numbers of native Urdu speakers:


and other some Asian Countries.
" Punjabi is another language .It speak in the Province Punjab of Pakistan and the Province of Punjab in India .
I am from Islamic Republic of Pakistan where it is difficult to have Radio and TV channel for preaching purposes. They would not allow us to do that here; the Satan has real strong hold over everything. I often say that we are living in the land of the enemy.
Friend, I humbly request you to expand your outreach your program in Urdu and Punjabi language. Urdu is the language spoken and understood by more than one sixth of the total population of the world. Urdu is spoken in Pakistan, India, Nepal, Afghanistan and also in Indonesia, Malaysia, Iran and others.
I would ask you to pray and share it among the brethren. I would offer my services for being translator, recorder and distribution/sales. I pray that your consideration will have His mark over your decision.
Hope you will contact us soon.

I hope you will consider me regarding this request.
Here is all information about my Minstries,
We started these services for the Glory of our Lord Jesus and the main purpose of this work is to stare the word of God through preaching and through upliftment of Christian who is persecuted church here in Pakistan .
Pakistan is Islamic country we are living here in minority .We have 2nd number citizenship . Christians people are living here tough life not have much resources .Now we discovered the major reason of this miserable situation is the high illiteracy rate and poor living conditions in these areas. After knowing this reality we decided a group should be formed, which would perform its role to improve the lives of the people.
Christ Apostolic Fellowship Organization {CAFO} is a cluster of Saints to who are serving the God and sharing the word of God among the people as written in Matthew
28:19 “ Go to all the Nations and make Disciples ………………” CAFO has been working in 2 big regions of Punjab Province, Faisalabad and Multan. These regions consist on 8 cities and 17 villages. The Saints are going to share the word of God in these areas. District Toba Tek Singh is the center of CAFO and its office situated in District Toba Tek Singh.
CAFO has been serving for the glory of God for last tree years. CAFO is serving in the following fields.
Our organization seeks to spread the word of God among all nations as it is written, “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,….”(St. Mathew)
We seek to transform the lives of people towards God, and His son Jesus.
The main purpose is to share the gospel of Jesus with the people of God. We pray that many souls will come into His kingdom.
HOME CHURCHES,
Our first and foremost work is to share the word of God through Sunday Services, Home Churches Street Churches, Conventions and through Bible College.

YOUTH MINISTRY,
We are running a Bible College to train the young boys and girls to fight the good fight of their faith in an Islamic society.
These students in this college are doing one year Diploma in Theology. They are studying Bible KJV and church history. Bible teachers are working voluntarily.


Evening Home Schools:-
we started this work with home evening schools for deserving Christian children .These children are working in different field like in small hotel , cleaning home and hospitals ,. And also with farmers So the education is the first step of the Development of Nation .So that is necessary for Christian people to know their religion Christianity and also know about basic education of this world .Now we started evening home schools in our working areas .Now this time we have 8 Evening home schools .
Formal Education School :-
In this world the formal education is very necessary for the children .Because Education is the first step of the Development of the Nations .Now in Pakistan English Medium good education is very expensives .so poor people cannot afford to get it .In 2003 we start our CAC School with Oxford Syllabus in Toba Tek Singh for poor and orphan children. In this field the volunteer pastors, assistant pastors and college students are struggling to find funds to support Christian students for their educational needs.

CHILDREN MINISTRIES,
In this Ministry our volunteer pastors and assistant pastors are taking Sunday schools for more or less 100 Children in different areas of Punjab. We believe that the children must know Jesus from their childhood.

ORPHAN CHILDREN
We are struggling to find funds to provide some orphan children their basic needs of life like education, food, clothes, medicines and other needs of life. We have an orphanage building and funds to run it in our prayers for these Christian children. We have 42 orphans children to Support ( We are supporting them )

Women Ministry :-
We have 8 women group in our working areas .We are working with poor , old and widow women .Women activities
1-. women prayer groups .
2-Adult Literacy centers.
3-Health care center .
4- sewing Center.

For Future :-
1- To reach millions of lost souls .
2- Much more home churches to share the word of God with families .Pakistan is Islamic country mijority of people are Muslems so Christians are living here in minority .Most of people are not educated and they follow Islamic customs and habits and many things . Now Muslem s motivate them and they accept Islam .
3- An orphanage to get all the orphan together and provide them a family atmosphere .
4- To develop the Elmentary school into High School .
Head Office Mailing add:-
Pastor Shahbaz and Seraphine Shahbaz
Christ Apostolic Fellowship Organization
Christian Colony Boarding Road
Toba Tek Singh 36050 Punjab Pakistan
May God Bless you.
In Jesus,
Seraphine Shahbaz
Pakistan .
#8 Seraphine Shahbaz - 02/28/2008 - 03:48

Request For Tranlsation into Urdu and Punjabi Language
Dear Friend in Christ,
Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ!

I have been going through the studies at your web site, and I am deeply inspired with all of the teachings and studies thereon like Bible studies and other teaching materials on our Web site. This is such a wonderful studies you have arranged for all the nations, in the long run of your service for the nations of the all the world.
I am from Islamic Republic of Pakistan where it is difficult to have Radio and TV channel for preaching purposes. They would not allow us to do that here; the Satan has real strong hold over everything. I often say that we are living in the land of the enemy.
Friend, we humbly request you to expand your outreach your program in Urdu and Punjabi language. Urdu is the language spoken and understood by more than one sixth of the total population of the world. Urdu is spoken in Pakistan, India, Nepal, Afghanistan and also in Indonesia, Malaysia, Iran and others.

I would ask you to pray and share it among the brethren. I would offer my services for being translator, recorder and distribution/sales. I pray that your consideration will have His mark over your decision.
May God bless you abundantly! May His perfect will be done!

Grace and Peace be with you, all brethrens.

Yours brother in Christ,
Mehboob Alam
Pakistan
Email: mehboob40@yahoo.com
#9 Mehboob Alam - 03/14/2008 - 14:48

Dear Brothers and Sisters
Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ!
I have been going through the studies at your web site, and I am deeply inspired with all of the teachings and studies thereon. This is such a wonderful studies and sermons you have arranged for all the nations, in the long run of your service for the nations of the all the world.
I am from Islamic Republic of Pakistan where it is difficult to have Radio and TV channel for preaching purposes. They would not allow us to do that here; the Satan has real strong hold over everything. I often say that we are living in the land of the enemy.

Brother, we humbly request you to expand your outreach your program in Urdu and Punjabi language. Urdu is the language spoken and understood by more than one sixth of the total population of the world. Urdu is spoken in Pakistan, India, Nepal, Afghanistan and also in Indonesia, Malaysia, Iran and others.

I would ask you to pray and share it among the brethrens at your ministry. I am a professional translator. I would offer my services for being translator, recorder and distribution/sales. I pray that your consideration will have His mark over your decision.

May God bless you abundantly! May His perfect will be done!
Grace and Peace be with you, all brethrens.
Yours brother in Christ
Evanglist Asif Mubrak
Christan Colony Gojra Punjab Pakistan zip code 36120.
Email.god_servant_asif@yahoo.com
#10 Evanglist Asif Mubrak - 04/02/2008 - 23:19

Greetings in Jesus name,

“Faith cometh by hearing and hearing from the Word of God”(Romans, 10:17)
It is really privileged for me to write to your ministry and I pray may Lord bless you abundantly. I am Miss Aliza from Pakistan . Five years before I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior and I trust in Him as my rock and try to walk in Him, as the Word of God says don’t be lazy in struggle.
As I was visiting your site I found that you are doing the work of translation into native languages. I am able to translate the good stuff of you into my native language Punjabi and national language Urdu. There are two purposes to request you the first one are to know the Word of God more deeply and second one to be supportive my family and to run. our Ministry. We will also teach your stuff in our working areas with our people .
My suggestion for you is to create your material in my language of Urdu and Punjabi also. It will bring lots of blessings of the Word of God for the Pakistani and Indian Urdu and Punjabi speaking people. For that purpose I as a translator will bring your material into Urdu languages and into Punjabi language as well. Although it will take your low expenses as well, as fund for the Word of God to reach out to the deserving people. As a translator I will take the expenses that will be spending just for the Word. I will be looking for your kind words on this my humble request as soon as possible.
“There is nothing more precious than to read and listen the Word of God into your own language.”
I hope you will consider me regarding this request.
In Jesus,

Miss Aliza

Pakistan
#11 Aliza - 04/19/2008 - 10:40

hello Dear ministry,
I greet you in the name of our lord who died for us and paid fine for our sins. God bless ur ministry . well my name is Mohsin and i am in Pakistan and i am a christian. i visited ur site and i really Appricaited it. and i am proud of ur ministry . i hopefull ur ministry members are very fine in the name of Jesus Amen. well there are 800 christian People here in our village we are living in village.and all the People are in christ Jesus here and they love Jesus and Jesus love them. and u can understand how it is difficult here in Pakistan for christians Peoples.
but With Jesus Christ Blessing they all are in christ Jesus and They want to Know about Jesus Christ More.and they Requested us; we want to See the Jesus Movie .passion of the christ Jesus movie name and they want to See it and We want to Fill Their That Wish Because they Want to Know about Lord Jesus More. and we Want to Give them knowledge More about Lord Jesus. and in this Lord Jesus Work it Cost is very big. We need Big TV, Electriccity , Place where they will sit, and we need Chairs, and we Want to Give them Rice To Eat too.and They will be Very happy if we give them Rice to eat Too. and in this Situation We need ur Some Help and ur Ministry Some Support and i Want to Contact with u on this Lord Jesus Work. i Hope u Want to Fellowship with us in this lord Jesus work.
We need ur Support.and with the Permision of lord jesus we will show them jesus movie soon. with ur help. and if u want to support us u can contact with us I found that all your material is full of knowledge concerning development of religious faith. . Most of the people in Pakistan are not capable to understand the English language. It’s because our national language is Urdu. My suggestion for you is to create your material in my language of Urdu and Punjabi also. It will bring lots of blessings of the Word of God for the Pakistani and Indian Urdu and Punjabi speaking people. For that purpose I as a translator will bring your material into Urdu languages and into Punjabi language as well.if u want to give us ur translation work. u can conatact with us . can send us ur back Email. we are waiting for ur back Emal. May God Bless ur ministry .
Mohsin Saleem.
From (Pakistan)
#12 Mohsin Saleem - 06/30/2008 - 04:12

To whom it may concern,
I visited your Church site, it is really privilege for me to write you with the Will of God. I found that you have awesome and precious work of Lord Jesus Christ, May God bless your Church staff and all precious work. I belong the Christian family. I am able to do work of translation into Urdu and Punjabi, if you have any translation work so please consider for the translation work, i would love to give my service to you church as a translator. Your Church material and Word of God must be reached to unreached people who didn't understand the English, those people can study and blessed through the Word of God. I hope that Lord Jesus will give the vision of Translation work and all funds. I will do pray to Jesus for this precious work. I will wait your reply.

In Jesus name
Suzina Abida
Pakistan


#13 - 07/05/2008 - 08:38

To whom it may concern, I visited your Church site, it is really privilege for me to write you with the Will of God. I found that you have awesome and precious work of Lord Jesus Christ, May God bless your Church staff and all precious work. I belong the Christian family. I am able to do work of translation into Urdu and Punjabi, if you have any translation work so please consider for the translation work, i would love to give my service to you church as a translator. Your Church material and Word of God must be reached to unreached people who didn't understand the English, those people can study and blessed through the Word of God. I hope that Lord Jesus will give the vision of Translation work and all funds. I will do pray to Jesus for this precious work.

I will wait your reply.

In Jesus name
Qaiser Anwar
Pakistan
#14 Qaisar Anwar - 09/03/2008 - 10:39

Greetings and Blessings in Jesus name!
It is privilege for me to write you, I visited your website. I found that you have awesome and precious literature. My name is Aftab Nasir, from Pakistan. I want to give a suggestion to you to improve your site and literature. Here in Pakistan many Christians don't understand the English, most of them who are only primary educated, they can read Urdu and Punjabi languages. Urdu is my native and Punjabi is my mother tongue. I would like to translate your all biblical material into Urdu or Punajbi if you wish to do. I work with my church as a translator i did translate many magzine and booklets into Urdu for my church. I hope that you will consider me for this precious work of Lord.
In Jesus Christ,
Aftab Nasir
nasir_virgo@yahoo.com
Contect No.0092-333-8942344
#15 Aftab Nasir - 09/18/2008 - 11:50

Greetings in Jesus name,

“Faith cometh by hearing and hearing from the Word of God”(Romans, 10:17)
It is really privileged for me to write to your ministry and I pray may Lord bless you abundantly. I am Aftab Nasir from Pakistan . Five years before I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior and I trust in Him as my rock and try to walk in Him, as the Word of God says don’t be lazy in struggle.
As I was visiting your site I found that you are doing the work of translation into native languages. I am able to translate the good stuff of you into my native language Punjabi and national language Urdu. There are two purposes to request you the first one are to know the Word of God more deeply and second one to be supportive my family and to run. our Ministry. We will also teach your stuff in our working areas with our people .
My suggestion for you is to create your material in my language of Urdu and Punjabi also. It will bring lots of blessings of the Word of God for the Pakistani and Indian Urdu and Punjabi speaking people. For that purpose I as a translator will bring your material into Urdu languages and into Punjabi language as well. Although it will take your low expenses as well, as fund for the Word of God to reach out to the deserving people. As a translator I will take the expenses that will be spending just for the Word. I will be looking for your kind words on this my humble request as soon as possible.
“There is nothing more precious than to read and listen the Word of God into your own language.”
I hope you will consider me regarding this request.
In Jesus,
nasir_virgo@yahoo.com
#16 Aftab Nasir - 10/13/2008 - 05:29

request for Biblical english translation in to urdu and punjabi
Dear brothers and sisters ;
greeting to all the members of christion ministries those are serving the Lord Jesus ; i visited your web site today ; read it carefully ; and very much impressed that you are working for the Lord all over the world ; i am also serving the Lord in the holly Bible church in pakistan for the spiritual development of our christion community ; we are not only limited in the church but also proclaming the good news of holly Bible in the street prayer meeting where the people be awar of wisdom and knowldge of the true God ; i come to know through visiting your web site that you are procalming the good news of the holly Bilbe in diffrent languages all over the world ; i offer my services to share with you sprading the word of God for those people they are not able to understand the english language ; they are needed to understand the word of God in urdu ; and punjabi their mother language ; God have blessed me to translate english into urdu and punjabi ; so that they could easily understand the true mening the word of God ; please you know that the people moste of the countries are spoken ; read ; and write in urdu and punjabi language ; the holly spirite of the God evoke me to work togather with you ; through urdu and punjabi translation provide more opprtunites for the spiritual development wherever the people are not able to understand the english language ; i hopefull that you will be consider my request for translation ; being a serving of Lord Jesus ; i will be waiting your good response ;
PASTOR ZULFIQAR FROM PAKISTAN .
#17 Paster Zulfiqar - 11/18/2008 - 09:20

Dear Sir madam.

Greetings from Pakistan.

Hello how are you, hope you’re doing well by the Grace of God. I am jameel younas gill and I am 25 years of age and living in Pakistan. I am running my business of printing press and also I am doing a Christian publication and translator of the books and sermons. My recent book is from USA, which I published and translated, in my local language in Urdu. The name of the book is cancer sign. The author is from USA and they came here for the book opening.And i am a Professional Translator and if you want any clarification you are most welcome.

I hope I will reply from your side soon.

You’re sincerely

Jameel younas gill.

From
Pakistan.
+92- 333-6595361
#18 Jameel Younas Gill - 12/04/2008 - 22:25

A meek and quiet Spirit, God will not despisea !
Greetings from Pakistan
We are well and we hope that you will also be well in Jesus name...Amen.
I am Saleem Khariti from Pakistan State Punjab city Sahiwal. I teaching to non-formal school and door to door evangelism as well as in Sunday school children here in my area district Sahiwal the city of Pakistan. Now I want to tell you some little about my area and community……..
1-SOME THING ABOUT MY COLONY.
First of all I want to tell you about my colony and its people. You know Pakistan is a Muslim country and here 98% r Muslims and Christians and other religions r 2%.Pakistan have 140000000 people in it. But I shall talk about my colony. I live in a Christian colony. In my people there are more than 100 Christian families. My city is a very small city and here people have no more chances for work. Here they can't earn enough for their food. Their children also go with them for work in streets or in Muslims home. Children have to work with their parents for their food and clothes. Parent’s r also uneducated for this they do not know about education and its qualities they also worship idols and they have made their own Gods. The second reason is their poor condition. They can’t afford school fee and expenses of books and note books. They can’t buy uniforms for their children also for this they donor send their children in schools. They send their children on work so that they may earn for themselves and for their families. This is little about my colony and about its people.
2-WHO we are?
Now I want to tell you little bit about myself. I m working for these poor students. My Father is working on street hotel as a sweeper. My parents spent a very hard life but they sent us school. I am thankful to god for this. But now when I see my other colony mates and their children I think about their future. I had been praying to God .One day God gave me new work in my life. He said me to work for those poor children. I thought I can’t give them food and clothes but I have a wealth in my heart and mind that I can give them that are education.
Now I m going to their homes for teaching those children in the evening and about 35 children are coming in my home for learning. I want to teach them so that they may see Jesus and His love.
3-WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR MY COMMUNITY?
I want to teach them how to live in this world. I want to improve their lives and I want to see these students going to school like other Muslim students. I want to see these poor children working for lord and for their families but with education. I know if they will learn they will be able to share love in their lives and they will be saved from bad societies. Many children start to think about wrong ways but I want to show them the right way. I believe God is with me and I shall be able to do this.
4-WHAT THEY NEED?
....I want to do for them all that I can do for them. They need food and clothes. I m also meeting with widows and their orphans children. I know widows and orphans have lot of problems in this world. I go to meet widows of my colony and I encourage them with prayers. Here orphans and widows also want your attention.
If these children will get education they can change many things in my colony. People will start to live with a prosper, good and new manner of life. Children will be saved from bad weys.
I wrote all about myself , my colony mates, elders and kids. They need your help , prayers and love in any kind.
God keeps you in His own peaceful hands.
Amen

In Christ
Rev.Saleem Khariti

Conact:
+92-313-6455659
#19 Come - 01/03/2009 - 13:18

To Whom It May Concern: Greetings! It’s a great honor for me to contact you through this e-mail. My name is Pervaiz Anthony have been involved in Sunday school and prayer groups at our local level. I have went through your website and found it very very interesting and fruitful for Christian believers and people who have interest in Christianity and are growing in Christian faith. Brothers and sisters, I could read your website and most of your teachings and stuff because I can read and understand English, but how about those Christians who do not know English and can not understand it. They also need such a wonderful teachings and material on your website to grow more and more in their faith and understand the great message of Jesus Christ Pakistan is a Muslim country but Christians are growing in numbers day by day but not all of them know English. As you may be aware that many ministries and churches and reaching out to people in countries like Pakistan by translating their teachings and messages in their local languages like Urdu. Urdu is a national language of Pakistan and it’s widely spoken and understood in the country. I would like to express my deepest desire to request you to translate your teachings and web site materiel, tracts, magazines, booklets and audio material like CDs and DVDs in Urdu language. By translating your written and audio material in Urdu language is a great opportunity to reach out people in Pakistan. This translated material will be a useful source for Christians as well as non Christians to understand the message of Gospel more clearly and easily. Please consider this request to translate your wonderful teachings and Gospel messages in Urdu languages. Hope to hear from you soon Your brother in Christ Pervaiz Anthony Pakistan.
#20 pervaiz anthony - 02/01/2009 - 09:08

can we translation ur book.pastor babar jamil from Amoon evangelical ministries pakistan.shadman colony.city pirmahal.district toba tek singh.pakistan
#21 pastor babar jamil - 02/10/2009 - 07:23

To whom it may concern,
I visited your Church site, it is really privilege for me to write you with the Will of God. I found that you have awesome and precious work of Lord Jesus Christ, May God bless your Church staff and all precious work. I belong the Christian family. I am able to do work of translation into Urdu and Punjabi, if you have any translation work so please consider for the translation work, i would love to give my service to you church as a translator. Your Church material and Word of God must be reached to unreached people who didn't understand the English, those people can study and blessed through the Word of God. I hope that Lord Jesus will give the vision of Translation work and all funds. I will do pray to Jesus for this precious work. I will wait your reply.
In Jesus name,
rahila farrukh from Pakistan.......
#22 rahila farrukh - 02/15/2009 - 07:17

To whom it may concern,

Blessing and greetings:

I visited your Church site; it is really privilege for me to write you with the Will of God. I found that you have awesome and precious work of Lord Jesus Christ, May God bless your Church staff and all precious work. I belong the Christian family. I am able to do work of translation into Urdu and Punjabi, if you have any translation work so please consider for the translation work, I would love to give my service to you church as a translator. Your Church material and Word of God must be reached to unreached people who didn't understand the English, those people can study and blessed through the Word of God. I hope that Lord Jesus will give the vision of Translation work and all funds. I will do pray to Jesus for this precious work. I will wait your reply.
In Jesus name,
Ev.Qaisar Anwar
Christian Colony Toba Tek Singh 36050
Pakistan,
Eamil address; work_for_peace_82@yahoo.com
#23 Ev.Qaisar Anwar - 03/28/2009 - 23:23

I am serving as a Pastor here in Arifwala city and surrounding village areas from last 5 years. From last 2 years we are running an awesome project called Bible village reader. Under this project we are training young Christian boys and girls as future leaders of Christian community. We are training them how to read URDU Bible Clear and laud to their families and communities. Till now we have 15 young students those are under training. We are printing Bible tracts and distributing them to the lost people and distributing Free Urdu Bibles to the deserving people those have none. You will be surprised to know that here in our areas even believers don’t have bible copies at their homes to study; they have to wait till Sunday to hear the word of God. So our Church tries our best to bless these deserving people with the Bible copies. We are trying to reach out as many souls we can with the word of God. Please always remember us in your prayers. We will appreciate your Love and prayers.I really lke your wonderfull work that you are doing i want to work with you i can do translation englsih to urdu and punjabi so that herein paksitan chrsitian people may read them and grow in their faith. it will be a wonderfull blessing for all of us. i am looking forward for you kind response, GBU
Your in Christ,
Pastor Fahim John
#24 Pastor Fahim JOhn - 07/09/2009 - 14:04

Request For Tranlsation into Urdu and Punjabi Language
Dear Friend in Christ,
Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ!

I have been going through the studies at your web site, and I am deeply inspired with all of the teachings and studies thereon like Bible studies and other teaching materials on our Web site. This is such a wonderful studies you have arranged for all the nations, in the long run of your service for the nations of the all the world.
I am from Islamic Republic of Pakistan where it is difficult to have Radio and TV channel for preaching purposes. They would not allow us to do that here; the Satan has real strong hold over everything. I often say that we are living in the land of the enemy.
Friend, we humbly request you to expand your outreach your program in Urdu and Punjabi language. Urdu is the language spoken and understood by more than one sixth of the total population of the world. Urdu is spoken in Pakistan, India, Nepal, Afghanistan and also in Indonesia, Malaysia, Iran and others.

I would ask you to pray and share it among the brethren. I would offer my services for being translator, recorder and distribution/sales. I pray that your consideration will have His mark over your decision.
May God bless you abundantly! May His perfect will be done!

Grace and Peace be with you, all brethrens.

Yours brother in Christ,

thfpak@gmail.com
#25 Photos - 07/10/2009 - 08:51

I visited your Church site, it is really privilege for me to write you with the Will of God. I found that you have awesome and precious work of Lord Jesus Christ, May God bless your Church staff and all precious work. I belong the Christian family. I am able to do work of translation into Urdu and Punjabi, if you have any translation work so please consider for the translation work, i would love to give my service to you church as a translator. Your Church material and Word of God must be reached to unreached people who didn't understand the English, those people can study and blessed through the Word of God. I hope that Lord Jesus will give the vision of Translation work and all funds. I will do pray to Jesus for this precious work. I will wait your reply.
In Jesus name
Aftab Nasir
Pakistan
livingfaith2001@yahoo.com
#26 Aftab Nasir - 01/30/2010 - 06:38

Dear Friends,
Greetings in Jesus name,
Faith cometh by hearing and hearing from the Word of God”(Romans, 10:17)
"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away"

It is really privileged for me to write to your ministry and I pray may Lord bless you abundantly. I visit your website and its really wonderful and amazing work which you are doing .I desire that I become the part of your Ministry and your stuff is really very good and kindly start work with us we will translate this . I am Faisal Anwer from Pakistan. Five years before I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior and I trust in Him as my rock and try to walk in Him, as the Word of God says don’t be lazy in struggle.

As I was visiting your site I found that you are doing the work of translation into native languages. I am able to translate the good stuff of you into my native language Punjabi, and national language Urdu. There are two purposes to request you the first one are to know the Word of God more deeply and second one to be supportive my family and to run our ministry. We are also able to do translate or more Pakistani languages such as Sindhi, Gujrati, Balochi and pushto these are Pakistani local languages which are spoken in different states of Pakistan. We will also teach your stuff in our working areas with our people.
I have studied your web site, and I found it the most wonderful site to get right to the True Word of God. I found that all your material is full of knowledge concerning development of religious faith. Living in Pakistan we Christians is to face many obstacles to get the access to the Word of God. Most of the people in Pakistan are not capable to understand the English language. It’s because our national language is Urdu. My suggestion for you is to create your material in my language of Urdu and Punjabi also. It will bring lots of blessings of the Word of God for the Pakistani and Indian Urdu and Punjabi speaking people. For that purpose I as a translator will bring your material into Urdu languages and into Punjabi language as well. Although it will take your low expenses as well, as fund for the Word of God to reach out to the deserving people. As a translator I will take the expenses that will be spending just for the Word. I will be looking for your kind words on this my humble request as soon as possible.
“There is nothing more precious than to read and listen the Word of God into your own language.”


Here is the Importance of Urdu Language:
Urdu is Languages which is:
Urdu is considered one of the sweetest languages of the world. It is the National Language of Pakistan and one of the Official Language of India. According to conservative estimates Urdu has 104 million speakers all over the world.
Countries :
IN these countries people can understand , speak , Listen and write the " URDU "
Countries with large numbers of native Urdu speakers:
• India (48.1 million [1997])[8]
• Pakistan (10.7 million [1993])[9]
• Bangladesh (650,000)[10]
• United Arab Emirates (600,000)
• United Kingdom (400,000 [1990])
• Saudi Arabia (382,000)[11]
• Nepal (375,000)
• United States (350,000)
• South Africa (170,000 South Asian Muslims, some of which may speak Urdu)[12]
• Oman (90,000)
• Canada (80,895 [2001])[13]
• Bahrain (80,000)
• Mauritius (74,000)
• Qatar (70,000)
• Germany (40,000)
• Norway (26,950 [2005])[14]
• France (20,000)
• Spain (18,000 [2004])[15]
• Sweden (10,000 [2001])[16]
• World Total: 60,503,578[17]

countries with large numbers of native Urdu speakers:


and other some Asian Countries.
" Punjabi is another language .It speak in the Province Punjab of Pakistan and the Province of Punjab in India.
I am from Islamic Republic of Pakistan where it is difficult to have Radio and TV channel for preaching purposes. They would not allow us to do that here; the Satan has real strong hold over everything. I often say that we are living in the land of the enemy.
Friend, I humbly request you to expand your outreach your program in Urdu and Punjabi language. Urdu is the language spoken and understood by more than one sixth of the total population of the world. Urdu is spoken in Pakistan, India, Nepal, Afghanistan and also in Indonesia, Malaysia, Iran and others.
I would ask you to pray and share it among the brethren. I would offer my services for being translator, recorder and distribution/sales. I pray that your consideration will have His mark over your decision.
Hope you will contact us soon.

I hope you will consider me regarding this request.
Here is all information about my Ministries,

About Us
Faith Christian Fellowship is a Christian Ministry in Essa Nagri St. No. 07, District Karachi Sindh, Pakistan. Faith Christian Fellowship was originally established to spread the gospel from door to door, house to house and street to street, to share the good news of our Lord Jesus Christ and to save the souls. FCF has the blessed opportunity to travel around the country to spread the message of God to as many people as possible and whenever there was an opportunity.
Faith Christian Fellowship owns Orphanage House where the children aging 7 to 15, total of them 23 are currently, are being taken care of. We invite friends and groups and individuals to take their generous steps in seeding anything in Faith Christian Fellowship of keeping promise of sending out the gospel. We also welcome to seed your charitable gifts and tithes to the Orphanage House where the children are being taken care with physical bread and the daily bread i.e. Word of God.
Faith Christian Fellowship was established in 2004, as the sole efforts of Pastor Faisal Anwer. Since schooling age, Pastor Faisal Anwer was seen sharing from the Word of God with the friends and the relatives and the visitors at his home. Coming out of age, as soon as Pastor Faisal Anwer accomplished his college studies, Pastor listened to the call of Lord Jesus Christ to share and spread His message into the world. Lead with his purposeful life aims, Pastor Faisal started door to door, street to street and house to house Bible sharing and saved many souls, many of whom also became part of the evangelistic team. God blessed the team with the name, “Faith Christian Fellowship.”
The Fellowship group would collect their tithes and the after calculating the actually expenses incurred on gospel spreading, the rest of the funds were always given to the needy families and the poor street children. By the end of 2007 the group was so well equipped that funds from the local community started coming. People used to give a sack of wheat, rice or sugar, to enable to help us the orphan children. Faith Christian Fellowship expressed their gratitude to the Lord and seeking it Lord’s will God’s call, started semi-organized orphanage house, where the children may live in, study and have good food even for one time a day. The people gave the best of their gifts for the House and we kept our promise to get going on with children’s education and nutritional needs.
What We Believe
There is one body and one Spirit; there is one Lord, one faith, one baptism, and one God and Father of us all. Eph. 4:4
The Needs:
The current changed situation of the world has laid great stress on the economic set up of the world and it has severely disorganized things in third world specially. We are being helped by friends and people locally, but the great economic stress has affected the funds coming in, and we the Faith Christian Fellowship are coming with extreme request for some funds or other moral and physical help you may be able to render to Faith Christian Fellowship.
You are highly appreciated to take few moments to pray for Faith Christian Fellowship and the mission, Lord has started in us.
1: You may help the Orphanage House with used clothes, socks and shoes, which your children may not have further need to use because the size of the clothes is smaller now and your children have grown up.
2: You may send books, note-books and stationary. (New or Used)
3: You may send any Christian Material which you may think the children in Pakistan may need. You may also send the small books in English as the children are learning English Language as well.
4: Anything you may send anything you may deem fit the children may need.
5: You may send us English and Urdu Bibles to distribute among the believers who do not have access to the Bible in their local languages (Urdu). Many poor people do not have Bible at their home.
6: Or you may send your financial help to enable the Faith Christian Fellowship to buy things of need from here locally, and as per needs.
Activities & Achievements:
The Faith Christian Fellowship has been blessed in various ways and Lord Jesus Christ has blessed the group of the believers with many blessed things.
1: Lord Jesus Christ has blessed the FCF to start working with Orphan Children, helping them with living, education and food.
2: FCF has 12 Sunday Schools in different areas and villages around the city of Karachi.
3: FCF has arranged and done many crusades and prayer meetings, where people accepted Lord Jesus Christ in their lives. FCF keeps fellowship with the new-born babies in the Lord Jesus Christ and help them to stay their walk with Lord Jesus Christ. The fellowship has always proved a helping atmosphere where the believers learn about their questions and concerns in our fellowship meetings.
4: FCF has distributed Bibles whenever there is support from the friends and seeders.
Donation:
Yours prayer and moral support is extremely needed and highly appreciated. Whenever you feel lead to give your financial help to Faith Christian Fellowship you please following our contact us information to send your physical or financial help to Pastor Faisal Anwer. You please know that your single one time help may be enough for the poor children of our orphanage house to manage even one month’s food for all the 23 children. Please pray for the cause and be lead by the Lord Jesus Christ to seed your tithes and charities in Faith Christian Fellowship.

Contact us:
Please contact Faith Christian Fellowship on the following information:
E-mail address: fcf_pk@yahoo.com.
faithcfm@gmail.com
Web site: http://fcfpk.yolasite.com/

Postal Address to send your Physical gifts by Post or send your financial help through Western Union or MoneyGram on the following Postal Address:

Name: Pastor Faisal Anwer
Street Address: H. no. 389 St. no. 7 Essa Nagri Karachi.
Postal Code: 75000
City: Province: Karachi (Sindh)
Country: Pakistan
Phone No: 0092-21-37791105
Mobile Number: 92-342-2008916
Our Gratitude:
The Faith Christian Fellowship is much thankful to you for taking your precious time to read about the FCF and blessed and anointed working the FCF is embarking upon.
Please feel free in contacting us for any further communication on our above mentioned email address.
We are highly thankful to you for your any gift small or big. We believe God provides and He provides through human hands.
May God bless you and keep you!

Yours in the Lord Jesus Christ,
Pastor Faisal Anwer
Faith Christian Fellowship
Pakistan
#27 Faisal Anwer - 03/06/2010 - 06:21

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