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Dear Editor: Re: Brendan's Ritchie's letter

Ross theory won't impact

Jesus stated, " But at the beginning of creation. God made them, male and female. Mark 10:6. Jesus ought to know, apparently He was there.

Sincerely
#1 Cherryl Katnich - 07/05/2009 - 16:45

Re: Nick Loenen's letter
Muslim faith putting us to shame

Christians are not under law but Grace, not to be treated lightly. This index smacks of legalism though. We are not to advise people as to correct behavior according to our limited lights
#2 cherryl katnich - 07/05/2009 - 17:00

Re: Muslim faith putting us to shame.

I would suggest Nick Loenen spend a year or two trying to live freely as a Christian in a muslim country ( Iran comes to mind)

Perhaps he finds it admirable for education to be forbidden to women, or to have them (women) beaten publicly if they speak out against their husband. Wasn't it just recently that the highest court in Iran declared it was the right for a married man to rape his wife, regardless wheather she wanted sex or not.

Sorry, Nick. You're looking to the wrong source for inspiration. Next time, may I suggest looking for Christ for inspiration.

Dale K.
#3 Dale M. Koop - 07/07/2009 - 22:02

RE: Brendan Ritchie & Hugh Ross
Ritchie needs a reality check.
He writes: “It’s surprisingly difficult to find, on Ross’ website (reasons.org), a straightforward statement of his competing theory. But he [Ross] does reject the view that humans have evolved from other forms of life.” Hello! Rejecting evolution in the context of an overtly Christian site about reasons-to-believe is equivalent to expressing belief in the “theory” of special creation. Sometimes in communication context is everything Brendan.
Brendan also writes: “Our evolutionary history is as obvious as our wisdom teeth, our tail-bone and our appendix.” I would like to add the useless tonsils - that we have since discovered do have a use - as well as the “junk DNA” (90+ % of the total DNA) - that now is being discovered as probably very useful as the relatively new science of epigenetics turns current genetic theory on its head. (see also Thomas S. Kuhn’s book “The Structure of Scientific Revolutions.”)
I began my honors science degree with an open mind, having recently become a Christ follower. After the first year, a combination of Zoology, Botany, Microbiology, Organic Chemistry, Genetics and Statistics I was dumbfounded that anyone could even believe in evolutionary theory. The latter two subjects alone make it so improbable when one considers that over 99% of mutations are deleterious. Interpret that with statistics!
When, in the first class, the Zoology professor began by asking if anyone was not convinced of the theory (dogma) of evolution, I raised my hand – the only one in the auditorium of some 400 students!
In high school the teacher taught us that like forces repel, and in the same breathe told us that electrons circle a nucleus of protons (Note: plural) and neutrons. No one batted an eye. Yet he was gratified when I timidly asked him after class what kept the nucleus from blowing apart.
As Brendan so nicely points out, evolutionary theory is simply ACCEPTED by students today – and herein lies the problem. Where are the honestly inquisitive minds that science depends on? Where are people like the Roman Catholic Christian Galileo who questioned the geocentric view of the solar system against the prevailing dogma. Science doesn’t need people who jump on the prevailing bandwagon and “accept” that they have to come to terms with what is placed before them.
Hence, I will have to strongly disagree with Ritchie’s statement that “People like Hugh Ross will never make an impact on the scientific world. They will never affect any actual debates about science.” Rather than “damage the intellectual lives of Christians” as Brendan asserts, they foster the honestly inquisitive spirit that is at the heart of true science.
Gary Desterke, Maple Ridge, BC
[Honors BSc (Environmental Biology) @ University of Guelph, Guelph, Ontario
BA (Linguistics and Humanities) @ McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario
MSC (Biblical Studies) @ Regent College, Vancouver, BC]
#4 Gary Desterke - 07/20/2009 - 10:59

Hi Cherryl, Gary - thanks for responding to my letter. I've got some responses in return:

Cherryl:

The New Testament does not portray Jesus as omniscient - consider his prayer in Gethsemane.

Gary:

1. Theory. No - Ross means to be presenting some kind of new scientific theory - no doubt some variety of special creation, as you say, but that doesn't say very much. The details matter.

2. Vestigiality. I am aware that some so-called vestigial organs are thought not to be entirely without utility - including the appendix, for example, and the tonsils, as you say. But that doesn't really mean that they do what they were originally designed for, though it may help explain why they've stuck around at all. In any case it seems to me peculiar to insist that say leg-bones in whales *must* do *something* when evolutionary theory accounts for their presence so neatly anyways.

3. Mutations. But of course most mutations are deleterious. It's only necessary that *some* mutations are beneficial, and therefore selected for. I'm sorry that this will seem insulting, but that point should be obvious if you actually have any understanding of evolutionary theory.

4. Inquisitiveness. It's true that pretty much no one in the scientific world questions evolution. But people debate all sorts of aspects of evolutionary theory very vigorously! The fact just is that there's no good reason to call into question the general framework.

A truly inquisitive spirit is not being fostered by evolution deniers. The denial is just driving people away from Christianity.
#5 Brendan Ritchie - 07/30/2009 - 22:31

Hi Gary, In the garden Jesus says, " My soul is very sorrowful, even to death." His humanity becomes evident. He knew the cup represented more than physical suffering. The words, "Yet not what I will, but what thou wilt" This shows there was in Jesus a human will, distinct from, but always submissive to the will of His Father. He seemed to know a lot about past happenings, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven." and future ones as well. Peter's denial, Jerusalems downfall. Cherryl Katnich, daughter, wife, mother, grandmother. Best Wishes
#6 Cherryl Katnich - 08/17/2009 - 11:32

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